It's a sad day in animation...

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Toonboy's avatar
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When Brave is scoring lower on Rotten Tomatoes than the newest Madagascar movie.

Well bugger on that.  I'm still watching Brave.

Polka dot afro circus indeed.

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Wow, that is surprising.

Unfortunately the preview tickets for "Brave" that I was going to get fell through, so I haven't seen it yet and won't be able to this weekend. I'll be very interested to see what the reviews look like for this one when they start to come in.

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Wow, that is a shock... and in my opinion, Brave looks to be much more entertaining than Madagascar 3's Polka Dot Afro Circus [darn those commercial spots! It's so darn catchy... but I'll wait for DVD release to see it]... and seems amazing in the visual department. Maybe it's the whole "first Pixar female protag" that's making people nervous...?

I'll actually be seeing Brave on Saturday [today], so I might have a review later this weekend of it. Not in 3D though... I have yet to understand why people pay about double the price for a pair of glasses.

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I've not seen it, but two nights ago it was reviewed on 'At the Movies'. David, a 60-something guy who is notoriously fond of animation said it was the worst film from Pixar and a major disappointment. His opposite number Margaraget (who doesn't like animation) agreed.

(David gave top stars to 'Mary and Max', and 'Waltz with Bashir' which he called a masterpiece, so it's not like he's  a twit)

I tend to take notice of him.

 

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BTW the profile of 'Waltz with Bashir' only mentions the soundtrack. I own a DVD copy so it must be available.

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Well, my question would be is it a "bad movie" or is it just a "bad Pixar movie". I mean, I think for their first however-many films they were a studio that could do no wrong and had virtually no competition. Now, other studios are producing movies that are actually good and so it makes me wonder if it's more a change of perspective than anything else.

Juuchan17's avatar
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Well, I saw it and... I didn't think it was bad. I would explain further, but my review [that I'm writing about it] may explain it better... also, I'm trying not to mention too many spoilers, but it was a good family film overall. It isn't Pixar's strongest, but it's better than "A Bug's Life" and "Cars", in my opinion.

Then again, to each their own about how good or bad it is. Maybe they need to give it a second chance - it's visually stunning and Merida is a better "Disney Princess" than many of the older ones, if only by what she does throughout the course of the film.

Shoot, I am really tempted to see it again!

- Juuchan17

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Cars 2 notwithstanding, a movie which I consider a fluke and is likely the only Pixar movie to earn a "rotten"(and badly, I might add), Brave looks to be the second Pixar film to earn a lukewarm rating, pushing 74 and struggling to beat Madagascar 3.  To my knowledge, none of the previous Pixar movies have earned scores below 90, other than, once again, the FIRST Cars, which also earned a 74.  Not even the often maligned Finding Nemo earned a rating even close to being mediocre.  In fact, it earned a 98, which oddly enough is even better than Wall-E's score, and Wall-E is the darling of Keyframe.

If Brave can manage to avoid looking like a Lasseter film and feel more like the first Cars and less like Cars 2, then I'll be happy watching it.

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