Mysterious Cities of Gold re-release and new seasons.

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(i thought maybe I missed this, but I checked back through the forum over the last three years and there's no mention of it that I can see) After painstakingly finishing copying each episode of 'Mysterious Cities of Gold' to DVD from its recent rerun (in fact as soon as they got to the last episode they started at the first again) on Australian TV....  I'm putting a full stop here because this sentence was getting too long.

 

Ahem.

 

I discovered that the original series has just been released - presumably within the past couple of weeks - on DVD in Australia and the UK, and furthermore that the entire season has been resumed where it left off over 30 years ago. Season 2 has already aired in France, and apparently in the UK, and is now on DVD and BluRay in regions 2 and 4.

 

sorry if this is old news, but I had no idea. I case it actually is news here, I'll just quote from Wikipedia:

Three new seasons of 26 episodes each are in production, picking up the storyline where the 1982 series left off. Unlike the original series, this sequel is produced entirely in France; as a co-joint venture between the French television channel TF1, the Belgian channel La Trois, the French animation company Blue Spirit and Jean Chalopin's company Movie-Plus Group.[17] The first of the new seasons sees the series move to China. The design of the characters are more or less the same, although some subtle changes have been made to their physical appearances. Jean Chalopin and Bernard Deyries act as creative consultants on the new series, with Chalopin concentrating particularly on the scripts (which are written by Hadrian Soulez-Lariviere from Chalopin's own draft for the sequel) and Deyries focusing particularly on the graphical aspects. New background music is composed by Noam Kaniel.[18] A 45-minute special, consisting of the first two episodes of the new series, was released on December 9, 2012 on TF1. The series started its regular airing during the first half of 2013. Like the 1982 series, each episode has a summary of the previous episode, a teaser to the next and a small documentary at the end.[19] The voices for the English-language version were recorded in Paris under the direction of voice director, Matthew Géczy.[citation needed]. The sequel received a premiere on the Kix (UK and Ireland) channel in the United Kingdom on November 9, 2013 before a daily airing due to start on November 11, 2013..

 

 

FWIW from the screenshots I've seen (just Google) the characters and drawing style look pleasingly very close to the original,just with more vibrant colours and more detailed backgrounds, as you'd expect

 

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I never did see the box set available at the chain stores.  Just online for some reason.  I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel series.  Perhaps if it does well, the original might either come back on TV or get another DVD run.  And then maybe the stores can do a double pack.  XD

But it seems with cartoons these days, full season DVDs are passed over in favor of smaller sets with a handful of episodes selected that may or may not be related.

Also... someone really needs to get on DVDs for Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea and Ulysses 31.

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Strange, I've never had much trouble finding season sets these days, either from the UK or the USA.

I can't speak for Australia, but the UK DVD has been in continued circulation since 2008, I have the re-issued, "slim" version of the set (brought it in 2012).*

As far as I recall, they were created using master copies found in the BBC's archives which dated back from when it originally aired on the channel. Apparently those reels were the only complete, broadcast quality prints known to exist of the English language version.

In the UK the set was originally exclusive to HMV, the re-release was more general. I don't know what the arrangement was for the series over Stateside.

I did add some of-interest on the series KF profile back when, I also remember mentioning it in the then forum, unfortunately, that forum predated the re-code that happened at that time in the site's existence.

The U.S. DVD were adapted from the UK set.

The image quality of the DVD is pretty good, all things considering.

I was aware of the second season, though was unaware that it aired on any channel over here - Kix is not a great channel in general IMO, for example, it's currently almost nothing but re-runs of Power Rangers and Dragon Ball Z, so I've tended to ignore it.

The blu-ray for series 2 is in my Amazon wishlist/shopping basket, but I have yet to have gotten round to purchasing it. If there's a need, I could move it into my cart and get a copy.

One other thing. With shows that had a second season made after such a prolonged time, I've always been at a sort of quandary. Do we add it as a separate profile (like the recent Ben 10 Omniverse), or note the new part in the original profile's off-interest section (like The Jetsons)?

My thoughts concerning Cities is that it's been such a long time since the original series was made, that it's likely that much of the original team aren't involved - certainly NHK are not animated it this time, as the production was all done in France. In that respect, it made certainly qualify for a seperate entry.

Ulysses 31

Unfortunately, the only DVD of Ulysses 31 that I know of, was the now out-of-print UK one.

*Actually I've thought about replacing the profile images on the profile with shots from the DVD - if possible the same images as those prior.

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I think a few of those master copies must've been used back when the only way to see this show was to plug into that fan restoration project and order the VHS tapes.  Oddly enough, though, the best quality tapes showed the Japanese channel up in the corner, so I'm not sure if the anime company that collaborated on this show kept their own masters.  At any rate, I'm glad the box set was finally released and is all nice and official because it contained some interesting collectibles and a couple nice documentaries.

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Looking on their site, the BBC are quite clear regarding their release policy regarding items in their archives. In the case of items owned by a third-party, etc, they'll only release materials to the rights holders (and said holders have to provide the paperwork). At the end of the day, the programmes stored in their archives are owned by people/companies and the BBC could get in serious legal trouble for lending it out to just anyone.

Noting that you're part of a fan restoration project would be of little use basically.

I found this thread - The person posting notes that he's using German and Japanese video taped off of the telly for his fan project. He also notes one Tim Skutt, who apparently used the Japanese DVDs for the video. I'm assuming that he also had footage taped off of the TV. I'm pretty sure that even Japanese masters wouldn't have the channel logo splashed in the corner,* the broadcast copies maybe.

As I typed this I looked through the special features: Skutt was involved - albeit in a minor, non-active role - in the 2008 release with Fabulous Films. He makes an appearance in disc 2's documentary. Surprisingly he was allowed to talk candidly about his fan DVDs.

*I mean my Japanese volumes of Astro Boy (2003) don't have the time in the corner like the original TV airings did.

 

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Tim Skutt.  That was him.  I still have the tapes, although I imagine they're almost worthless now, in a monetary sense.

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Starlac: "One other thing. With shows that had a second season made after such a prolonged time, I've always been at a sort of quandary. Do we add it as a separate profile (like the recent Ben 10 Omniverse), or note the new part in the original profile's off-interest section (like The Jetsons)?"  

I think we should ask ourselves what the average person coming to the site looking for information would expect to see, and I suspect they would expect to see the original and the current series as seperate entries, mainly because their primary query is almost certain to be 'How does the new compare with the old'? With the three decade time gap, the different production values, music (we won't be hearing those lovely old analog synthesisers), voice cast and more, I think it's drawing a long bow for the producers to assert that the new show simply takes up where episode 39 finished.

 

 

BTW I'm very sorry for my lack of activity lately. I've been completely bed bound for days with an old medical problem and have to go in for surgery in two days.

 

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It's rather odd how I think that applies to Digimon, as each season is effectively a separate story, but not to Pokemon, which has one overarching adventure, despite the seasons having varying production values.

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Something I just noticed about the new series of 'Mysterious Cities': the co-director of animation is Richard Williams, whose last completed major work as director of animation was.... Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

 

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